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jade408
Location: Oakland, CA 28,229 posts, read 38,938,162 times Reputation: 28608
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Quote: Originally Posted by Pink Jazz Note that JCPenney considers their two main competitors to be Macy's and Kohl's. Nordstrom Saks Fifth Avenue Bloomingdales Neiman Marcus Lord & Taylor Middle-High:Dillard's Mid-Range:Macy's JCPenney Kohl's Belk Middle-Low:Sears Low-End:Walmart Target Kmart Macy's is higher end than Kohls and Penney's. Penney's goes with Sears. Kohls probably fits in that tier too, but I am not so sure it is better than Target.
jade408
Location: Oakland, CA 28,229 posts, read 38,938,162 times Reputation: 28608
Quote: Originally Posted by CamillaB I have found a lot of good quality clothing at JC Penney's without spending a fortune. Walmart is obviously really low quality. I got a pair of 70 dollar pants once from a store at the Stanford Mall (back in 1997 when I guess that was a lot of money) and they just weren't really any better than pants from Penney's. Meh. Clothing quality has gone seriously downhill at all prices. I went to Macy's looking for a coat. I found one in a great color and decent shape, but tge way it was constructured meant the liner stuck out when you put it on. I tied on several colors and they all had tgat defect. The coats at Target were better made than that. I didn't find anything suitable, so I guess it means no knew coat for me. The one I have is ok but has some loose seams. It wasn't as well made as I would have hoped based on the brand, but it was a cheap find at Nordstrom Rack more than several years ago. I have found wool coats at Old Navy are not bad, and the prices are inexpensive.
Pink Jazz
Location: Queen Creek, AZ 7,552 posts, read 13,940,609 times Reputation: 5007
Quote: Originally Posted by jade408 Macy's is higher end than Kohls and Penney's. Penney's goes with Sears. Kohls probably fits in that tier too, but I am not so sure it is better than Target. I'm going with what JCPenney themselves considers to be their main competitors, which are Macy's and Kohl's.
in_newengland
Location: near bears but at least no snakes 26,743 posts, read 31,089,656 times Reputation: 50937
Quote: Originally Posted by jade408 Macy's is higher end than Kohls and Penney's. Penney's goes with Sears. Kohls probably fits in that tier too, but I am not so sure it is better than Target. I remember that Macy's bought out some of our good, locally owned high end department stores. Then the quality went way down. I'd put Kohl's in the Penney's and Sears category but Kohl's does have great sales so I think they'll stay in business. I think I've been to a Target only once so I don't know about it. If I want something, I go to the particular store that has that brand--like J. Jill or Chico's. I like Marshall's and T.J.Maxx too. Kohl's seems to be ok for costume jewelry and kids clothing but mostly everything else is low quality and the clothing is cheap and skimpy. Walmart is the bottom of the heap but I can find my dog food in there.
Pink Jazz
Location: Queen Creek, AZ 7,552 posts, read 13,940,609 times Reputation: 5007 With JCPenney and Kohl's, I usually don't buy the in-house brands I think it is worth spending a bit more on IZOD, which provides great quality without breaking the bank. IZOD will soon be reviving their women's line as a licensed line; not sure how will the quality be in comparison to the men's line since it will be licensed out.
CiaraVista
17 posts, read 15,062 times Reputation: 17 I feel like designer bags are becoming less trendy as of lately.
jade408
Location: Oakland, CA 28,229 posts, read 38,938,162 times Reputation: 28608
Quote: Originally Posted by CamillaB I have found a lot of good quality clothing at JC Penney's without spending a fortune. Walmart is obviously really low quality. I got a pair of 70 dollar pants once from a store at the Stanford Mall (back in 1997 when I guess that was a lot of money) and they just weren't really any better than pants from Penney's. Meh.
Quote: Originally Posted by Pink Jazz I'm going with what JCPenney themselves considers to be their main competitors, which are Macy's and Kohl's. All of those stores focus on middle income consumers, but Macy's in-house lines are generally higher end than JCP and Kohls. And they carry higher end designers. I am sure their customers cross shop all of those stores, but you won't see a Michael Kors or Brahmin bag in Kohls or JCP. Macy's also has high end flagships, no such thing for JCP and Kohls.
kapikap
3,971 posts, read 3,566,518 times Reputation: 4381
Quote: Originally Posted by KeepTheIslanders50 Can you categorize them? Low budget would be Walmart, Jc Penny and Sears are about the same, Macy's is mid level Nordstrom,Lord and Taylor,Saks is upper level, but not high end. High end would be the designers store. The best department store, for everything,would be Sears, but the company is almost completely folded.
Pink Jazz
Location: Queen Creek, AZ 7,552 posts, read 13,940,609 times Reputation: 5007
Quote: Originally Posted by jade408 All of those stores focus on middle income consumers, but Macy's in-house lines are generally higher end than JCP and Kohls. And they carry higher end designers. I am sure their customers cross shop all of those stores, but you won't see a Michael Kors or Brahmin bag in Kohls or JCP. But I wouldn't but JCPenney and Kohl's in the same class as Sears either, since both seem to carry more mid-range brands than Sears does. Their price points tend to be slightly above Sears.
bg7
7,693 posts, read 11,241,671 times Reputation: 15312
Quote: Originally Posted by kapikap Low budget would be Walmart, ? Barneys perhaps, Henri Bendel. Even Bergdorf Goodman. But "the designers store"? What?
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